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Brandon Welch's avatar

Progress leads abundance.

Innovation creates a high cost (drugs) or luxury product (tesla) that eventually commodifies as the pressure from competition drives the cost of production down. This leads to abundance.

We need people to continue to build things — ideally in the physical world (robotics, materials, etc), not just the next SaaS product if we want to continue lifting baseline living standards.

Michael Magoon's avatar

At this point, I have no idea what the Progress movement is about other than a vague optimism about technological innovation bettering humanity (which I agree with).

About five years ago, I tried to push the movement to create a tight goal for what we are trying to accomplish. Unfortunately, Jason Crawford and most of the members disagreed and said that even discussing the topic would split the movement. They were apparently afraid that this would scare off potential members and cause current members to depart.

This has unfortunately led in exactly direction that I feared: a loose group of people that cannot explain to others what we are trying to accomplish.

I think that is why both you and Jason are having problems articulating the difference between Progress movement and the Abundance movement.

As for me, I am going to stay with my original goal that I identified five years ago:

I believe that the best definition of Progress Studies is “the systematic study of history, both recent and ancient, to develop policies and practices that maintain and, if possible, accelerate human material progress.”

The goals of the Progress Studies are to:

1) Promote an awareness and understanding of human material progress as one of humanity’s greatest achievements.

2) Study the history of material progress to identify the origins and causes of progress and how progress works in our daily lives. In particular, Progress Studies looks for common patterns across nations, eras, industries, technologies, institutions, and trends that enable us to identify causes of material progress.

3) Apply that knowledge to develop theories, policies, and practices that promote future progress.

4) Build coalitions to implement those policies and practices in the real world.

https://frompovertytoprogress.substack.com/p/what-is-progress-studies

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